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General Pink Pistols Discussion / NRA October 2017
« on: September 21, 2017, 07:50:23 PM »
Mr. LaPierre has the following to say:

Of the many big lies of the gun-ban
media, none should make us angrier
than the malicious, false notion that
somehow the NRA is racist.

Confronted with that “NRA-racism” claim
by a CBS news anchor, my instant reply
was to say that at a time when the doors
of many newsrooms were sealed against
employment of people of color, membership
in the NRA was wide open.

It has been ever thus since the founding
of our Association in 1871 by former Union
officers—men who were deeply committed
to ending the vestiges of slavery and to
seeking equal rights for all.

One of the great honors of my career at
the NRA was serving with Charlton Heston
and Roy Innis—among the great figures in
the 1960s' Civil Rights movement.
Heston marched in Selma, Ala., and in
Washington, D.C., arm-in-arm with
Dr. Martin Luther King, who was a gun-owner
who knew the sting of racist gun control.

Heston was a man not just touched by
that history, but immersed in it. He lived and
breathed civil liberties. He understood better
than anyone the NRA’s role as the oldest
Civil Rights organization in the nation.

Innis, who headed the Congress of Racial
Equality (CORE) as a Civil Rights pioneer in
the 1960s, was a staunch Second Amendment
supporter, serving for 25 years as an NRA
Director until his death in January this year. His
son, Niger, carries on in his footsteps.

With our unyielding dedication to preserving
the Second Amendment, the NRA has
long been fighting the covert racism of “gun
control.” Even today in places like Chicago
and D.C.—where the Supreme Court’s will on
the Second Amendment is ignored—the
targets of the gun banners are good and
honest inner-city residents who are the
victims of unchecked armed violence—
Hispanics and African-Americans.

Nowhere was that more apparent than in
the story of Otis McDonald, the lead plaintiff
in the U.S. Supreme Court case that knocked
down Chicago’s draconian gun ban in 2010
and extended the individual right to keep
and bear arms to every corner of the nation.

An elderly black veteran disarmed by the
Chicago political machine of his right to own
a handgun in his home, McDonald lived in a
once-peaceful neighborhood that had been
taken over by gang members. His singular
accomplishment was summed up in an
obituary published in the Chicago Tribune in
2014, two days after his death at age 80:
“Mr. McDonald felt strongly that he had
a duty to stand up for the rights that had
been taken away from African-Americans
during slavery. … He had come to understand
more about his ancestors and the
… ‘black codes’ that kept guns out of the
hands of freed blacks.”

The Tribune quoted McDonald as saying,
“There was a wrong done a long time
ago that dates back to slavery time. … I
could feel the spirit of those people running
through me as I sat in the Supreme Court.”
McDonald’s recounting of history was
on the mark. Just as people of color were
denied the right to vote, they were denied
the right to keep and bear arms—and with
it, the right to protect themselves, their
families and their communities.

In her autobiography, Condoleezza Rice,
a former Secretary of State, recalls her first
understanding of the Second Amendment. It
came in the wake of the 1963 bombing of a
black church in Birmingham, Ala.—a horrendous
crime that took the lives of childhood
friends of the then-8-year-old Rice. The
murders of those children forever changed
the Civil Rights movement in America. Rice’s
father, a pastor, feared the same fate for his
church. She wrote:

“After the first explosion, Daddy just
went outside and sat on the porch with his
gun on his lap. He sat there all night looking
for white night-riders. Eventually, Daddy
and the men of the neighborhood formed
a watch. They would take shifts at the end
of the entrances to our streets.” Had they
registered their guns, she said, racist law
enforcement “surely would have confiscated
them or worse.”

If you want an example of selective racism
in gun control, it came in the first few
months of the existence of the NRA
Institute for Legislative Action (ILA).
In 1975, the nation’s urban gun
owners were faced with the threat of
federal gun controls that would apply
strictly to urban areas that kicked in
when crime rates hit a certain score.

Pushed hard by then-President
Gerald Ford’s attorney general,
Edward H. Levi, the plan was to
disarm selected city and suburban
residents of their right to armed
self-defense.

Shockingly, Levi was more concerned
with lawfully armed citizens
than illegally armed criminals. In April
1975, he told a law enforcement conference,
“[W]e must try to act immediately
to counter a dangerous trend in
our cities, in which citizens, skeptical
of the government’s ability to protect
them, seek to guarantee their personal
safety through a terrible balance
of force.”

Terrible balance of force? He was
talking about armed citizens—good
people versus evil criminals, where only
the good can be disarmed. And he was
talking about populations of majority
black and Hispanic urban residents.
He was also demanding a prohibitive
tax on so-called “Saturday Night
Specials.” “Short of prohibition,”
Levi wrote, “a taxing system could
be developed to price this variety of
weapon out of existence. The only
advantage to purchasers of these lowquality
weapons is their low price.”

Low price? Read that to mean
that poor black and Hispanic people
were buying them. On Capitol Hill, we
argued the racist nature of all of this,
and we quietly changed the debate.
The urban disarmament schemes were
defeated. It was ILA’s first Civil Rights
victory.

In our 146-year history, open
doors for minorities, and defense of
our common rights has been at the
center of the NRA’s existence. For all
Americans—especially minorities who
are the victims of crime—the NRA is
America’s safest place.





so....if you keep insisting that NRA discriminates, you are without basis and wrong.

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General Pink Pistols Discussion / Re: No parade for YOU!
« on: September 02, 2017, 06:40:16 PM »
I like it better when we just talk about gun rights, guns, and how to use them properly.
Frankly, I dont want to hear anyone's unrelated political opinions, and to be fair, I don't delude myself that you really want to hear mine.

When I'm with gun guys we just talk guns, when I'm with fishermen we just talk fish, when I'm with gay guys we just...well, umm.. well... talking is kinda optional.. cough cough. In each case when you don't let politics or the narcissism of small differences get in the way of shared interests it's amazing how well we can all get along.

well said.

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Guns 'n Gear / Re: Friendly Dealers
« on: September 01, 2017, 05:57:21 PM »
monthly IDPA match (well first of 2 this month), shooting my 92G Beretta 9mm.  sweet pistol.

i've never been cool.  always sounded like you had to give up part of yourself to fit into their idea of "right".  that sounded wrong.

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Guns 'n Gear / Re: Friendly Dealers
« on: September 01, 2017, 10:31:11 AM »
after 3 days, likely none.

but throwing around insults and smears with no basis in fact is easy, lets you be part of the "cool" crowd, and requires no facts or reason or thought.

i'm shooting a match tomorrow.  anyone else hitting the range?

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General Pink Pistols Discussion / Re: No parade for YOU!
« on: September 01, 2017, 10:22:31 AM »
you can make that type of argument in both directions.

i could assert that Hillary was terrible, and therefore, if you liked her or Bernie, you are too stupid to learn how to use a gun.

see, this nonsense works both ways.

but...discrimination only goes one way according to some.

:rolleyes:

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General Pink Pistols Discussion / Re: No parade for YOU!
« on: September 01, 2017, 08:55:45 AM »
You'd be left with two people who could teach you about guns.

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Guns 'n Gear / Re: Friendly Dealers
« on: August 29, 2017, 10:39:51 AM »
Sorry if I wasn't specific. what I meant is: how does one buy a gun and ammo and find a shooting range without directly supporting the NRA as gun manufacturers and most ranges give the NRA a % of their profits and I'm not interested in supporting the racist, homophobic, misogynist agenda of NRA, not even a little bit.

i'm tired of this.

i'm a lifetime NRA member, have offered my free services on Operation Blazing Sword, and am not any of the smears you list above.

you cannot provide a single example of the NRA doing any of the above things.  the NRA does not discriminate based on race, based on sexual orientation, based on gender.  it doesn't exist.  so if you are looking for a non-NRA NRA, maybe you should start one and see how things go.

as for gun makers, gun shops, and ranges giving the NRA some percentage of their profits, people are free to do what they want with their money.  the NRA does not tax their members or gun makers or gun shops or ranges.  free people freely give what they want to causes they support.  just as you give money to things you support.

my offer stands:  if you want to learn the basics of shooting a pistol, i'll take you to the range free.  but i'm tired of being called things that I am not.

you will have a tough time in life beginning a conversation with someone else by insulting them with no basis.

in every gun shop I've ever been to, they want to sell you guns and gear that you want.  that's it.  they don't care how you are dressed, what you think, what you do outside of the gun shop.  do you have the same attitude when you shop for groceries?

end of rant.  good luck in your search for a good gun and gear.

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Guns 'n Gear / Re: Friendly Dealers
« on: August 24, 2017, 04:37:57 PM »
visit your local gun shop?

online gun stores are pretty much extensions of brick and mortar gun shops. 

not sure what  you expect to find online.  you'll still need a local shop to have your selected gun sent to for transfer.  and there are fees for this service.  or you could just visit your local gun shop, see what they have in hand, and if they do not have what you are looking for, i'll bet they will order it for you.

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General Pink Pistols Discussion / A Win for Pink Pistols
« on: July 25, 2017, 05:56:49 PM »
just decided today:

https://www.cadc.uscourts.gov/internet/opinions.nsf/005426559985AEE685258168004F376E/$file/16-7025-1685640.pdf

DC's "good cause" reason for concealed carry permits struck down on 2A grounds.

yay!

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Guns 'n Gear / Re: Choosing a firearm
« on: June 19, 2017, 01:32:42 PM »
if you are a new shooter, get a full size pistol to learn how to shoot.  it won't beat you up as much, has a longer barrel and sight radius (making it easier to aim and having better accuracy), and is a double stack 9mm.

if you go to Operation Blazing Sword, there are literally over 1000 instructors who have offered FREE training, and i'll bet most have more than one gun in their safe that they would take to the range and let someone try out. 

i have more than one (cough) pistol, and if you contacted me, we'd go to the range with several pistols to try out.

trying to learn to shoot with a small gun will make you very frustrated very quickly, you won't learn, you won't practice enough to get good, and ultimately, you will have wasted your time and money getting a pistol upfront that was not a good first choice.

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General Pink Pistols Discussion / No parade for YOU!
« on: June 08, 2017, 06:51:41 PM »
http://www.fox5ny.com/news/259656209-story

Gays kicked out of pride parade because they support Trump.

tell you what, as long as you are safe, i'll take you to the range and show you what i know about pistol shooting.  even if you did vote for Trump as I did.  :)

so much for tolerance.

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:rolleyes:

my wife thinks i'm sexy, that's good enough for me.

everyone else will have to find their own spouse.

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really.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2017/06/robert-farago/julie-golob-barriers-shooting-competition-high/

so i'll state again, if you want to go shooting, i'll take you shooting.  free.  really.  you can find me on Operation Blazing Sword.

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