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Socialistworker

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What to buy and where
« on: November 26, 2016, 12:21:57 PM »
Hi all. I'm wondering, given the recent rise in gun purchases following the election, whether there are any gun manufacturers and retailers that do not donate to the NRA or GOP or support right wing politicians like Trump. Or would someone who only wants to patronize progressive business have to buy used?

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Re: What to buy and where
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2016, 02:46:36 PM »
if i was shopping for a firearm, i think i'd focus on finding a good firearm, and not worry about who the seller might or might not support with their time and money.

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2016, 02:55:50 PM »
if i was shopping for a firearm, i think i'd focus on finding a good firearm, and not worry about who the seller might or might not support with their time and money.

Thanks for letting me know, but I'm interested in learning about progressive gun manufacturers and sellers.

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2016, 03:09:16 PM »
so you are hoping to find a manufacturer or retailer that does not support the NRA, the 2A, or the GOP?

that's like looking for a dolphin at the animal shelter.

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2016, 03:13:15 PM »
so you are hoping to find a manufacturer or retailer that does not support the NRA, the 2A, or the GOP?

that's like looking for a dolphin at the animal shelter.

As suggested in my post, I'm interesting in patronizing businesses that don't offer financial support to the NRA or GOP, if they exist. If not, I will buy used. I choose not to give those who support to my enemies the means to do so.

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2016, 03:19:22 PM »
They all support the NRA and GOP, as far asI know. If this is your primary consideration I suggest an older or classic/vintage firearm. An old revolver or semi-automatic, of well known make, bought used will still serve you well but will not put any cash into the hands of the hands of manufacturers or retailers you have issues with. Good luck!

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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2016, 03:32:46 PM »
and unless you plan to create your own ammo, whether you buy new ammo, or reload using components, those companies too support the same folks.  and if you do any amount of shooting over time, you will spend far more on ammo than you spend on the gun.

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2016, 03:39:38 PM »
Thanks. I had done some reading and figured that was the case, but thought this would be a good place to ask.

I have the same reservations about ammo but in that case there may not be an alternative, unless someone here had similar concerns and came up with a solution.

I was at least hoping there might be a manufacturer who simply stays out of politics, although I guess that's no more realistic than a progressive one.

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2016, 03:45:08 PM »
what you seek is a logical inconsistency.  someone who makes guns or ammo who does not support people (you and me) buying and owning guns and ammo.

if you want to find one who stays out of politics.....well, lots of luck.  they all have an interest in candidates who won't put them out of business.  some are more vocal than others, but you would be hard pressed to find one that was against their own interests.

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2016, 03:53:37 PM »
I appreciate the input. There are certainly left wingers who support the 2A, but many who don't.  It stands to reason that there may be a minority of manufacturers who support left wing campaigns that support the 2A, or at least those who choose not to support the right, but I haven't found any yet.

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2016, 06:39:30 AM »
Even if you get foreign-made firearms, they must still be brought into this country by licensed importers and almost all of  them will be GOP and/or NRA supporters.   Same thing with ammunition.

So, again, foreign-made is not on option for the OP under the parameters that he has set down.

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2016, 05:06:18 PM »
reminds me of the old trick economics question:  how many people did it take to get a banana into your lunch box today?

well, you had to buy it from the store.  they had to get it from the wholesaler.  they had to get if off the boat in the port.  the boat had to travel the sea.  someone had to load the boat.  someone had to drive the banana to the boat.  someone had to pick the banana.  someone had to have planted the tree.....and so on.  there is always a connection to something else.  you had to build the trucks and boats.  you had to mine ore for steel.  you had to mine coal to make the steel.  you needed power to run those plants, from power plants....

the correct answer, is:  the entire population of the earth was required to deliver a banana to your lunch box today.  same with anything else.  we are all inter-connected.

so find a good gun, get a good holster, learn to use them safely, and carry them everywhere you go.  practice regularly.

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Re: What to buy and where
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2016, 01:07:16 PM »
I'm confused. Why would a firearms manufacturer not support the largest private organization that promotes firearms safety and proper firearms training? The NRA spends very little on politics compared to other PACs. It's not even in the top 100! Most of the NRA's time and resources are not invested in politics. It's the idiot antis that demonize the NRA's relatively small financial contribution to the political scene. Also, why would anyone want to own a firearm and not support the political party that is helping to defend your right to own any firearm?
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Re: What to buy and where
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2016, 10:25:43 AM »
i'm not aware of any NRA position that even speaks about gays.

the NRA is for the promotion of safe gun ownership and use, and whatever derives from that basic position.  they simply do not get involved in matters that don't affect their primary goal.

the goal of gun makers, ammo makers, and everyone else involved with the gun industry is to make money.  by making and selling arms that people want to buy.

i think you are reading far too much into things.

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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2016, 04:40:52 PM »
i'm not aware of any NRA position that even speaks about gays.

I don't know if they have an official policy statement, but they do have Chris Cheng as a national spokesperson.